I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler with the ESS system...A company called "SmartStopStart" makes a override device for many different vehicles...You can choose to select the start stop mode or you select it to the off setting mode that eliminates having to push the button every time...I have one on my Wrangler, easy plug and play install and works as advertised...
Idle stop school
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You might want to use your Stop-Start...
Good write up / article from Road and Track last year. The accompanying video is really informative! I think I'll use my Start Stop after reading this. In short, if you're idling for 7 sec's or longer, you're wasting fuel based on a small 4 cyl engine, ironically in the video looks like a Honda 1.5L engine. The bigger the engine, the more fuel waste. Read the link below and find out...
Automatic Start-Stop Tech Saves More Fuel Than You Think You might think it's annoying and pointless. It's not
Good write up / article from Road and Track last year. The accompanying video is really informative! I think I'll use my Start Stop after reading this. In short, if you're idling for 7 sec's or longer, you're wasting fuel based on a small 4 cyl engine, ironically in the video looks like a Honda 1.5L engine. The bigger the engine, the more fuel waste. Read the link below and find out...
Automatic Start-Stop Tech Saves More Fuel Than You Think You might think it's annoying and pointless. It's not
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Don’t need to prestart for the light. Engine has baffles in it to keep the engine oil charged for 15 minutes.I've also learned to push the steering wheel slightly to start the engine a few sec's before the traffic light changes... get that oil pressure built up before I hit the GO pedal!
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Key word is watch oil changes. I don’t have a passport yet but with ford says right on the oil fill. Need to wait 15 minutes to drain the oil and another 15 for the new oil to settle. 1st and last time I let ford change my oil they put ~ 10qts in it because the pimply kid thought it was empty. Takes 15 for the dip stick to see all the oil after it’s poured in.
Most 20 minute oil changes and most dealers will not drain all the old oil and you end up overfull with a mix of new old oil because they have no clue.
Does passport have it stamped in the oil fill cap??
I realize in the condition when you crank up the A/C to the lowest setting. That will disable the idle stop features. Not sure if this happened to you.
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I have yet to barely use my AC...only did it once driving from HB to Ventura a few weeks ago. Now I’m in San Jose where it barely hit 70* last week! ?
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So much for global warming
Just an old fart who complains about everything he can, can't stand anything new, (can't train and old dog new tricks) Count the times he says "bullshit" and how many times he says 'Cah".
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And I would be drunk...
Well, he doesn't seem that old to me! It's all relative, I guess. LOL.
So, if he wasn't an Aussie, but from the Boston area and said 'cah', would it be ok?
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Is that Phil Collins ??
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I got to drive my passport for the first time in three weeks yesterday and did not ever have the idle/stop stupid feature stop the engine while idling? No AC on as it's still 75* in San Jose, but I just don't understand this feature and why it sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't??
Passporter, it seems simpler to just press the button and turn it off. However, I'm impressed by the length you have gone to accept it and use it to your benefit.So I have a challenge for everyone who can’t control or hates auto start stop!
Background. I’m an old coot who hates new stuff. 1st auto s/s was in a 15 Jeep. Absolutely hated it. Damn thing had mind of its own. Couldn’t wait for it to break or shut the button off and got aggravated each time it was pressed
In my 5th vehicle with auto start stop and now wonder why they didn’t create it years ago and love it!
Sat back and read up about it.
1. Know what vehicle controls will override it, cold/hot weather etc. look it up it’s documented tons in this forum and most others or in the manual.
2. Need to learn how to control it. Need to feather the pedal, if you ever drove a stick, think clutch. Takes practice (like a stick, like swimming etc) once learned you’ll know how easy it is and drive without even thinking about it and have complete control over it! Your thinking yeah sure, feather the pedal and try not to hit the car in front of you? One can slam on the pedal (there is a delay before engine will stop and it will know your hard braking) and once safely stopped let up ever so gentle, car stays running, or if you want it to shut off, keep more pressure on the pedal. It’s that darn hard and easy at the same time!
3. Now, go to a big open empty area and practice, practice and practice. Go on the road and practice.
4. Here’s the hard to admit truth and been proven in other forums with many owners. If you can’t learn it and control it your simply not coordinated enough and just live with it. True that.
Sure it really does not save that much gas and manufactures mainly do to it to meet or exceed ‘cafe standards(did I say that right?). but it sure does comes in handy! - you know, at the roads you travel often and you know when the street lights will change(if your observant while driving & hope you all are). At your option cut the engine off for long lights, freight trains, stop and talk to a neighbor, waiting for the herd to cross the road, waiting for the moron at the drive thru has no idea how many burgers they want or they are paying the cashier in change, at the drive through ATM.. You get the idea!.
- or feather the pedal and keep er running for the ready to turn green street light, your still cold? You know by learning what conditions will shut your car off but damn car thinks your fine, keep er running by letting off the pedal and keep your car in a secure controlled stop and keep your heat or A/C on full blast.
*****Challange••••••
Give it a try before condemning it. Don’t let it win, your a winner and you can and will learn to have control and the upper hand and enjoy this great feature.
Disclaimer: some do have electronic or mechanical issues and your dealer has competence, can fix it.
Hitting the idle-stop off button has now become part of my starting the engine procedure of my PP.
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I noticed one unwelcome note on a slope, hit the brake and car’s engine switched off! That’s scary and not fun.
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Here too. Everytime.
But twice driving back home, my Low Fuel light came on. I turned the S/S feature back on to assure I'd make it to my preferred gas stop near home. Not sure what our reserve offers mileage-wise?
The manual states we have a 17.5-gallon fuel tank. The question is how evenly distributed through the tank are those gallons is a good question. My 2012 Pilot took forever to use the first quarter of the tank, normal consumption for the next two quarters but the last quarter went much faster and I got used to not driving much farther before fueling up.
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What threw me was the range. I was watching the range at about 39 miles. Coming home on a 60 mph, 6 lane, road with many traffic signals. I failed to notice once what the range miles were when it went to Low Fuel. Did not realize once it goes to LF mode, you cannot go back to see the range numbers or tripmeter, etc.
I pretty much knew I was less than 20 miles from home. I kicked the S/S button back on due to all the traffic signal stops to help with that. Looks like I'm getting about 416-420 miles to the tank making about the same turn around trips in my area last couple weeks. Have to go fill up agian today, esp with us eyeing that storm in the Gulf. And I always reset my trip meter at each gas fill up. I more watch my MP tank than MPG's. peace, e.
I pretty much knew I was less than 20 miles from home. I kicked the S/S button back on due to all the traffic signal stops to help with that. Looks like I'm getting about 416-420 miles to the tank making about the same turn around trips in my area last couple weeks. Have to go fill up agian today, esp with us eyeing that storm in the Gulf. And I always reset my trip meter at each gas fill up. I more watch my MP tank than MPG's. peace, e.
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