Agreed, every time I see a Subaru Outback and those huge roof rack rails I think how ugly they look. I considered an Outback or a Forester and then found out they have a CVT, so no deal. Very happy I chose the Passport.Never for me, aesthetically I hate the look of the side view of the racks which I would have to use all of the time as it’s just too damn small compared to the PP ?